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Aaron Huertas's avatar

You get at this with media coverage, but I think a lot of these discussions about messaging elide salience. The World's Greatest Message about something that's not inflation or abortion rights is going to have trouble getting through when the real world includes inflation and a right wing Supreme Court that invalidated Roe.

There's also a tactical and orientational divide here regarding how political actors see the base. Setting aside substance, a lot of the Race / Class Narrative approach, for instance, views base voters as messengers who co-produce opinion change along with elites. That seems more consistent w/ the social media + traditional media ecosystem we're living in. A position that polls as popular but that disappoints part of a vocal base, e.g. means testing student loan forgiveness, can produce a muddled message in social + earned media even if it narrowly over-performs in polling and paid media testing. To put it another way, how do you control for what real constituents think and say about a policy strategically? I don't think anyone in these disputes has a good track record of getting the people who disagree with them to pipe down in the name of message discipline or what have you.

Additionally, I think this issue is further confused since a lot of the commentators who write about strategy work for mainstream media outlets from a position of presumed objectivity, but that often precludes tactical discussions about what produces high salience media coverage of an issue. Wrote about this a bit more here, but exercising power and provoking the opposition tend to produce media coverage, which is very much upstream of messaging decisions, at least in my experience: https://www.aaronhuertas.com/messaging-is-not-the-same-as-generating-attention/

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Louis Balocca's avatar

I think you may be inaccurately eliding the difference between “moderate” democrats and “popularists.”

You’re right, moderates have been and are losing. But it’s because they ignore the most popular left policies. They are beholden to capital (either because of group affinity, corruption, or both) and kill everything people want from the left. Drug price negotiation, wealth taxes, white collar prosecutions, competently administered state benefits (e.g. the popularity of medicaid expansion v. the hell of the exchanges), etc.

Moderates then, having kept those options off the table, keep using half measures or symbolic radicalism on anything that won’t threaten capital (e.g. the leadership kneeling in support of black lives).

Altogether, I don’t see how this problem could be attributed to them skewing too closely to empirical measures of popular opinion. They may SAY that they are choosing “moderate” policies because people don’t like big liberal change, but that’s just a lazy subjective diagnosis of what went wrong in the 80s. In reality, their real problem is their class interests are straight jacketing them.

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